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Madder Lake live May 2014 


Here's an article from 1999 by Ian McFarlane which talks about our early years. This originally appeared in "The Encyclopaedia of Australian Rock and Pop" now also on

Madder Lake's history

by Ian McFarlane 1999


I'll put my cards on the table and declare up front that Madder Lake is one of my favourite Australian groups, and that I really believe that they have never received the recognition they deserve. It's one of the great ironies of Australian rock that this outstanding and innovative group, who excelled both live and on record, was unable to extend its career overseas, even though their records sold in impressive quantities in England and Europe — and still do. Their central importance to the early success of the fledgling Mushroom record label has also been overlooked, and as lead singer Mick Fettes recently observed:

"there wouldn't have been a Mushroom if it wasn't for us." 


Madder Lake was one of the most original and distinctive of the "new wave" of Australian groups that emerged around 1970. They were also an important and popular part of the of the Melbourne music scene. It's unfortunate that they're only known for their extant recordings -- their two excellent 1970s Albums and one "Best Of.." compilation -- because they are prolific writers, and according to Mick they have are "literally hundreds of songs" stockpiled,waiting to see the light of day.


The original lineup — McKenna, Kreemers, McKinnon, Mason and Fettes — all met in 1968, while studying at the Swinburne Institute of Technology, Melbourne's renowned arts and media college. The entry in Noel McGrath's 1978 rock encyclopedia says that Madder Lake was their first band, but in fact all the members had been through the usual round of teenage beat groups before meeting at Swinburne.


The band which became Madder Lake evolved from an earlier student band, which included Kerry McKenna and Brendan Mason, who had been playing together since their early teens. By the time they began studying at Swinburne, Kerry and Brendan already had their own established band, San Sebastian, gigging regularly around the Melbourne area. They had even competed in the Victorian heats of the Hoadleys Battle of the Sounds.

There were lineup changes during 1969, as new contacts from Swinburne were brought into the group: McKinnon, Kreemers and finally Mick Fettes. It was here that they also met David Drakopoulos — "Drak" — who became their close friend, roadie and cover designer.


Mick's first gig with San Sebastian was at a pub in the Victorian seaside resort of Sorrento in 1969, which he remembers as being

"really traumatic ... they'd been working consistently and I just had to sort of slot in".

They built up a solid following on the Melbourne pub, disco and dance circuit, which was then still booming. The young band, all still in their late teens, quickly found their feet musically, and at this stage they were playing regularly, often two or three gigs per night, while studying during the day.


Although some of the early gigs were at 'straight' venues — Mick recalls one in Toorak where they were even expected to put on a floor show! — the experiences were all valuable.


Their early sets were drawn from a set-list of about 25-30 covers, but before long they were including original compositions, which they had begun working up in late-night sessions in an old dairy which stood next to Brendan Mason's family home:

It was just a natural thing. Brendan, the guitarist, lived in Hawthorne at that time, with his folks, and next to the house was an old solid brick dairy, with really thick walls, and he'd lined it with egg cartons so it was really soundproof. So we used to get in there and just go for it, into the wee small hours, and try out anything we wanted. And that's how things happened - and to a great degree that still happens; there's no problem with the creative side. - Mick Fettes


The introduction of original material was the turning point. From there on, as they gained confidence as writers, the covers were gradually phased out. This brought them to the point (around the start of 1971) where Mick says people really started to take notice. Bookings came in thick and fast, and Mick, for one, soon found it impossible to keep up with his studies, so he dropped out and concentrated on music. They found themselves performing up to four gigs per day, and the formerly impoverished young students were soon earning more from gigs than most average wage earners.


Madder Lake certainly evolved a distinctive sound very early on. According to Mick, the group's sound was very much in place by 1971. And while influences can be identified — English progressive groups like King Crimson, Family, Traffic — one listen to the Stillpoint album should convince you that they were very much their own band.


They were as musically dynamic and accomplished as any of the contemporary English groups, like early Genesis, but with none of the latter's fey qualities. A focal point was the energetic,bear-like presence and tough, bluesy voice of Mick Fettes.


It's become a convention to compare his singing to Joe Cocker, but it's really only a surface similarity. If you listen with open ears you quickly pretty realise that Mick was (and is) very much his own singer. Another often overlooked feature of the group was their strong harmony singing.


They were picked up by Consolidated Rock, the booking agency co-owned by Michael Gundinski (who was also an old schoolmate of Brendan Mason's). By this time Mick had dropped out of Swinburne to concentrate on music, and these connections led to him landing a day-job as the art director on Gudinksi's new rock magazine Daily Planet, which he set up as a rival to Australia's established music bible, Go-Set. According to Mick, this was something of a baptism of fire — the Daily Planet office was just down the hall from Gudinksi's own office, and Mick had a close-range introduction to Gudinksi's 'high-powered' approach to business.


The band's common background in graphic arts provided the inspiration for a change of name around 1971. The term 'madder lake' will have childhood associations for many people — it is of course one of those evocative names given to pencil and paint colours. (Madder itself is a rich blue dye, originally derived from the root of the perennial herb madder, which is these days produced synthetically).


Their first big break came in January 1972, when they were placed as the opening act for the epcohal 1972 Sunbury concert. Later in the year, they became one of the very first bands signed to Michael Gudinski's fledgling Mushroom label, which had grown out of his work with Consoldiated Rock. In November they recorded their first single, the naggingly catchy Goodbye Lollipop (b/w Bumper Bar Song).


The effects of the 1970 radio ban were still being felt, and some local acts were still finding it hard to get airplay, but by the time the group returned from touring early in the New Year, the single had been picked up by Melbourne radio and had shot into the charts. It was a strong chart performer, reaching #13 in Melbourne and #35 nationally in February 1973, and it provided Mushroom with their first hit single.


1973 was a peak year for Madder Lake. In January they played at the second Sunbury festival, and Mick fondly recalls 'hanging out' backstage with host Paul Hogan. In February with Goodbye Lollipop in the charts, they supported The Rolling Stones at their Melbourne concerts at the Kooyong Tennis Centre. In April '73 Mushroom released their classic debut album, Stillpoint, recorded at TCS Studios in January and March, produced by John French. It was another breakthrough success for the band and provided


Mushroom with their first gold record. It reached #11 nationally and #2 in Melbourne, where they had become one of the top live draws.



By now the band's repertoire was finely honed, and two years of solid gigging had turned them into a well-oiled performance machine — evidenced by the fact that the LP was cut in less than two weeks! It's certainly one of the strongest and most original albums of the period, and Ian McFarlane rightly calls it

" ... an adventurous work, brimming with superbly arranged material, appealing sounds and imaginative lyric themes".


The album is beautifully framed by Drak's wonderful cover illustration, which complemented the music in much the same way as Roger Dean's famous covers for Yes. The distinctive Madder Lake logo, designed by Ian McCausland, completed the package.


The album is still available as a CD release from Mushroom, and it's highly recommended for anyone with an interest in the music of this period. On the down side, it's regrettable that Drak's beautiful artwork has been so poorly reproduced for the CD version. Also, Mick Fettes recently revealed that French and the band were under pressure from Gudinski to save money and work as quickly as possible, and that as a result they were never entirely happy with the final sound!


Keyboard player John McKinnon left the group mid-way through 1973 ("musical differences"), and he was was replaced by Andy Cowan, who was introduced to the band by future Skyhook Bob Starkie (another former schoolmate of Brendan and Kerry's).


In August, Mushroom released a second single, "12lb Toothbrush" / "Country Blues", which became an even bigger hit, going Top 10 in Melbourne and #35 nationally.


Simultaneously, radio began picking up other tracks from the LP and at one stage, according to Mick Fettes, there were four or five tracks on high rotation on various Melbourne stations. This later proved to be source of some regret, when the band realised that they could have made much more of their success if other tracks had also been released as singles.


By early 1974 Madder Lake were well and truly stuck on the treadmill, gigging incessantly around the country. They were one of the headline acts at Sunbury '74, where they actually followed immediately after the hapless Queen, who were booed and bottled offstage ("The crowd wanted us" reckons Mick!).They made appearances on GTK when they were in Sydney (some of which have survived) and Mick says they even appeared on an early edition of Countdown (which, sadly, probably hasn't). A rare clip of the band performing "12lb Toothbrush" (probably from GTK) has recently been posted on YouTube.


They found themselves in a"catch-22" situation -- their booking agency, Consolidated Rock, and their record company, Mushroom, were effectively the same company and both were keen to milk the cash cow while they could. Although Madder Lake themselves would clearly have preferred to take time out to rest, write and rehearse new material, Mushroom rushed them into the studio early in the year and they cut their second album Butterfly Farm.


By the time the second album was completed, relations with their label were at an all-time low. Mushroom's attitude veered betwen hostility and indifference, and this added to the pressure the band already felt in having to come with a suitable follow-up to such a successful debut. Although the resulting LP is still an excellent work, the group themselves admit that the spirit which informed Stillpoint was fast disappearing by the time its successor was cut.


The second LP, Butterfly Farm, was released in April 1974; it sold very well (giving the band their second gold album) and went to #18 in the album charts. Mushroom lifted two Singles from it: the first was Butterfly Farm / Back Seat Song (April '74). Radio in Melbourne picked up one of the album tracks, Booze Blues, and gave it a lot of airplay. Many fans thought it was the new single, so Mushroom rush-released it in May, but it was only a local hit in Melbourne and didn't chart nationally. The next single, It's All In Your Head / Slack Alice (November) was written specifically with radio airplay in mind, but it didn't make the charts.


At the end of the year the band split with Mushroom ("a mutual thing", says Fettes) but around this time another exciting break came their way when they met leading conductor David Measham. The English-born musician was a regular visitor to Australia, where he worked as a guest conductor with ABC orchestras. He also had a finger on the popular pulse, and was closely involved in the trend to combine rock music and classical orchestration. By the time he met Madder Lake, he was well-known worldwide through his collaboration with former Yes keyboardist Rick Wakeman on his hugely successful 'symphonic rock' concept album Journey To The Centre Of The Earth, which Measham orchestrally arranged and conducted.


Measham was evidently on the lookout for an Aussie band to collaborate on a similar musical project when he met Madder Lake in Perth. During a long meeting at a Perth hotel, Measham proposed the idea of a large-scale conceptual work for rock group and orchestra, to be written by the band. Measham's proposal was that he would orchestrate and conduct the work for the band, who would perform with the West Australian Symphony Orchestra, and Mushroom (who initially showed some interest) would record and release it. One of the most exciting aspects was the subject -- rather than the fantasy-adventure of Verne's book, the new project promised far meatier subject matter. It was to be based on Aldous Huxley's famous speculative novel Brave New World.


Madder Lake returned to Melbourne and leaped into the project, drastically curtailing live gigs (and thus their income). Through a friend, they were able to use an empty pub in the dockland area of Port Melbourne as a regular base in which to write, arrange and rehearse the new music. They made several tapes for the project, including a full preliminary demo made on 4-track at the ABC studios in Perth. It's not known if these ABC tapes have survived, but the band at least do have a cassette copy (although the quality is necessarily limited). Aruond 90 minutes of songs and linking music was composed, a rough set of working lyrics had been written, and according to Mick the project was more than ready to hand over to Measham for the next stage, the orchestral arrangments .


Unfortunately, this was the point at which Brave New World became one of the great "lost" works of Australian rock. Mushroom's initial interesting in the project rapidly cooled, Measham's concert commitments kept him away and as it dragged out over months, the band saw the writing on the wall, and it was eventually shelved. Because it was written to be performed as single piece, the band only ever played it live once in its entirety, although one favourite segment was preformed at gigs as a stand-alone piece for a while.


The combination of the Madder Lake's innovative music and the Brave New World book leaves you wondering what might have been. We hope that some of the Brave New World demos will find a public release in the future, and it's also possible that, with the advent of new computer technology, it might be possible for the group to realise the work electronically in the future.


Stung by the failure of this ambitious project, the band limped on through 1975, but the various forces acting on them were tearing the formerly close-knit group apart. Lack of record company support, financial pressure, the grind of five years' constant gigging, internal stresses and the hazards of the rock'n'roll lifestyle were all taking their toll. As Mick ruefully observes:

"We just hit a brick wall at a million miles an hour ... in those times you were just on a merrry-go-round, and you just went on it in concentric circles until you reached the centre, and then it spat you out It wasn't just us -- it happened to so many people."


Things came to a head at the end of 1975. While on a trip to Sydney, Mick Fettes, who was very much the voice and face of Madder Lake, decided he had had enough, and one night before a gig at the Bondi Lifesaver he quit the group.


Mick took a well-earned sabbatical and then teamed up with an his old mate, musician & comedian Shane Bourne (now also well-known as a serious actor). Mick and Shane knew each other from the Reefer Cabaret, where Madder Lake had played many times, and where Shane performed comedy spots between acts. After several months' writing the pair formed a new group, Bandicoot, which also included drummer Gary Young (Daddy Cool). They recorded an album and single in 1976 for the Rainbird label, and toured extensively.


Mick was repleaced in Madder Lake by Colin Setches who had been in the original Australian stage production of Hair. Andy Cowan also left in late '75 and the band played as a three piece until John McKinnon rejoined in early 1976, but there were more lineup changes to come. Kerry McKenna left for three months to go to London, and he was temporarily replaced by Ian Holding (ex-Sunshine, Sayla). When he returned, he rejoined on second guitar and Tony Lake also came in, replacing Setches on lead vocals.


There was evidently a rapprochement of sorts with Mushroom, and they released a new single I Get High / Rodney's Birthday in July 1976, on which McKinnon sang lead vocals; unfortuantely it didn't chart. According to Noel McGrath, another single Love Light In Your Eyes was released before "I Get High" (but there's no mention of this in either Who's Who or Ian McFarlane'sEncyclopedia).


Tony Lake left the group in May 1977, and by this time they were rarely playing live. There is little information on what happened over this year, but in May 1978 Mick Fettes rejoined the group in, having quit Bandicoot sometime before. His return coincided with the release of Mushroom's The Best Of Madder Lake. The group still had a loyal following, it seems, and the compilation sold well enough for Mushroom to consider re-signing them. Plans were made for a new LP, but the reunion didn't last and Mick again left the band in January 1979, heading off for a year in Europe with his wife Vicky.


Although there have been some long "dry" spells, it's important to note that Madder Lake have never actually split up. When Mick returned from overseas, he renewed contact with his old bandmates and they have since convened from time to time, to write, record and play the occasional special gig. In the meantime Brendan and Kerry formed Clawed Rains (aka Claude Rains) which worked mainly in 1980-81, but also got together sporadically into the late '80s. The group also included singer Neale Johns (Blackfeather) and drummer Trevor Young (Coloured Balls).


Michael Gudinski planned a large concert to celebrate Mushroom's 10th anniversary in 1982, and Madder Lake (who still had a place in the heart or conscience of Mushroom) featured prominently in those plans. Gudinski approached Mick to perform with them for the Mushroom Evolution Concert, which was held over the Australia Day Long weekend. Although he at first refused, Mick eventually agreed -- reluctantly. Three tracks from their performance ("Goodbye Lollipop", "Song for Little Ernest" and "12lb Toothbrush") ended up on the triple LP recording of the concert.


The band have since got together on occasion (with a new drummer, Luke McKinnon, the son of their old keybord player John). According to Ian McFarlane's Encyclopedia, they were recording an new album in late 1996. Mick Fettes has confirmed us that there is indeed 12-track Madder Lake album of all-new material "in the can" but that it has been "on hold", pending additional funds to complete production.


Being their first major success, it was fitting that Madder Lake were featured at Mushroom's 25th anniversary concert in late 1997. In fact one could say that this and Madder Lake's first Sunbury appearance were the bookends for the career of Mushroom Records. The much-heralded gig featured most of Mushroom's biggest acts, was televised nationally and recorded for release on CD and video.


Sadly, events in the following months proved that this "celebration" was in fact a 'pre-mortem' wake. In mid-1998, to the consternation of many, Gudinski sold his controlling share in the Mushroom to its other major shareholder, Festival Records, a subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation.


Festival, it seems, was keen to expand its presence in the music industry and had its eyes on Mushroom's artist roster and back-catalogue for some time. In the press, Gudinski asserted that the sale was "not about the money" and went so far as to claim that the sale was in fact a protest against the Howard goverment's changes to to parallel importing regulations. Few believed him.


The deplorable result was that the only major independent Australian recording company passed into the hands of a American-owned multinational, and many former employees were laid off in the wake of the sale as the new Festival Mushroom Group "rationalised" its operation in the time-tested Murdoch fashion. Goodbye Lollipop, indeed!


On the up side, the members of Madder Lake are still in regular contact, and they recently held a reunion of all the original members -- the first such meeting since the Seventies. They are re-establishing a business identity for the group, and gradually workng through their archives to assess and prepare old and new material for possible future release. According to Mick there is enough useable material for at least 3 CDs.




Feb. 1973 
"Goodbye Lollipop" / "Bumper Bar Song" (Mushroom K 4986)

Aug. 1973 
"12 LB Toothbrush" / "Country Blues" (Mushroom K 5230)

Apr. 1974 
"Butterfly Farm" / "Back Seat Song" (Mushroom K 5453)

Jun. 1974 
"Booze Blues" / "One star, the Moon" (Mushroom K 5516)

Nov. 1974 
"It's All In Your Head" / "Slack Alice" (Mushroom K 5732)

Jul. 1976 
"I Get High" / "Rodney's Birthday" (Mushroom K 6425)


More light reading ...thanks Wikipedia


Madder Lake is an Australian progressive rock band formed in Melbourne in 1971 They were one of the first bands signed to the Michael Gudinski co-owned Mushroom Records which released their debut single, "Goodbye Lollipop" in February 1973, followed by the album Stillpoint in August This contained their most recognisable single, "12lb Toothbrush". Their second album Butterfly Farm was released in April 1974, they left Mushroom after their last single, "I Get High" appeared in July 1976. A compilation album The Best of Madder Lake was released by Mushroom Records in 1978.


San Sebastian was a part-time rock band formed by Swinburne Institute of Technology (now Swinburne University of Technology, Hawthorn campus) Graphic Design students in 1968, including Kerry McKenna on bass guitar and Brendan Mason on guitar. By 1969 the line-up was McKenna, Mason, Mick Fettes on vocals, Jack Kreemers on drums and John McKinnon on keyboards, they were playing cover versions for the pub circuit. Original material was introduced and, by late 1970, band members were leaving their tertiary studies to fulfil their bookings. With a repertoire of progressive, psychedelic, blues music they changed their name, in early 1971, to Madder Lake—madder lake is a crimson-coloured water-based dye (alizarin) mixed with alum and used in painting.


The Melbourne-based line-up of Fettes, Kreemers, Mason, McKenna and McKinnon were picked up by Michael Gudinski's booking agency, Consolidated Rock.[2] Madder Lake were influenced by British progressive rock acts, Family, Traffic and King Crimson. They were the opening act at the inaugural Sunbury Pop Festival in January 1972. As their popularity increased, they were one of the first band's signed to the Gudinski co-owned Mushroom Records in late 1972 By 1973 they were a headlining act at the 1973 Sunbury Pop Festival and Mushroom Records' first release was their debut single, "Goodbye Lollipop", in February.


The single peaked at No. 15 in Melbourne and made the Australian singles Top 40.[4] Mushroom Record's first album release was the ambitious triple-live, The Great Australian Rock Festival - Sunbury 1973, which was released in early April, and included two Madder Lake tracks. Madder Lake's debut album, Stillpointfollowed in August, which peaked at No. 13 on the Australian albums chart, it spawned their most recognised single, "12lb Toothbrush" written by band members, Fettes, Kreemers, McKenna and McKinnon.[5] McKinnon had been replaced on keyboards by Andy Cowan by the time the album and its related single had been released.


In 1974, the band recorded their second album, Butterfly Farm which was released in April but the album and its related singles had less critical and commercial success than earlier work.


 British conductor, David Measham, who had worked with Rick Wakeman on his Journey to the Centre of the Earth, was based in Perth, Western Australia from 1974.[1] He commissioned Madder Lake for a theme piece on Aldous Huxley's science fiction novel Brave New World, but the project stalled when funding from Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) was cut-back and Measham's other commitments intruded.


Cowan and Fettes left Madder Lake by late 1975, Fettes formed Bandicoot with comedian, Shane Bourne.[1] Fettes was initially replaced by Colin Setches on vocals but when McKinnon returned in early 1976 he took up vocals in addition to keyboards, meanwhile Ian Holding replaced a departing McKenna on bass guitar and the band recorded their last single, "I Get High" and left Mushroom Records


 McKenna returned, now on second guitar, and Tony Lake joined on vocals but soon left. Although not formally disbanding, Madder Lake subsequently had numerous periods of low activity.


Fettes returned in April 1978 for touring and Mushroom released their compilation album, The Best of Madder Lake in May, a new album was planned but Fettes left again in January 1979.


Madder Lake resurfaced with three tracks on Mushroom Evolution Concert live album, to celebrate the record company's tenth anniversary in 1982.


They returned to touring in 1996 and appeared on Mushroom 25 Live: The Concert of the Century released in 1998, after which Gudinski sold his interests in Mushroom to Festival Records.


Madder Lake's two studio albums have been re-issued by Aztec Music with bonus tracks added, Stillpoint on 10 October 2008[6] and Butterfly Farm on 24 March 2009.


 As of May 2009, Madder Lake were; Andy Burns on keyboards, Fettes, Kreemers, Mason and McKenna. The band headlined the Queenscliff Music Festival in November 2008.

In 2012 Luke McKinnon replaced Jack Kreemers on drums. Luke is the son of original keyboard player Johnny McKinnon who also rejoined the band in 2012 making it now a 6 piece featuring two keyboard players. At times Andy Burns plays guitar as well.


In 2013 they released the critically acclaimed album 'World', their first album in 39 years. 


In December 2013, Mick Fettes retired from performing for health reasons and was replaced by Ian Ferguson ex-RJSS, Carson and the Blue Dukes on lead vocals.

Sadly Mick passed away in May 2017.

In 2017 Michael O'Loughlin joined the band replacing Ian on vocals giving them the dramatic focal point they had been looking for since the departure of Mick Fettes.

Michael has re-inspired the band and they are now doing a successful run of gigs  and tours and have begun some new recordings featuring Michael O'Loughlin on lead vocals.